[Curmudgeon]

Surprising seeing as Mattcobra was willing to gleefully run on all fours to reach the high-horse when talking about how he'd gladly have us "debate" in text.

[MattCobra]

• An active police department is something every good mayor should maintain, it's nothing special and nothing to boast about. On top of that, the Sentinels shut down during your leadership, which was one of the better Police Departments in the recent months of Pandahut.
  Your economy was only slightly better than the last but still servicable at best. The number of businesses and business owners are far from unprecedented and your "successful businesses" and "much needed services" were casinos ran by an egocentric mayor
  Your attempt at legalizing weaponry like shotguns just made it harder for citizens to find what's legal or not when purchasing weaponry by convulating it. From all high-cal IN GENERAL being illegal to the Determinator being legal, the Quad-barrel being illegal, the bluntforce being legal, the Desert falcon being legal, the Nykorev being illegal, the Dragonfang being illegal etc.
  The only notable case of your "WIDESPREAD corruption scandal research" was Slav Dragon, no one else.

Hm, talk about overestimating your actions. But let's talk about things you left out in that small list over your career...

• Infighting between ministers over incompetence (see attached links).
  Unprofessional behavior concerning ministers and now disbanded police groups (see attached links).
  General incompetence from the Minister of Commerce (who was promoting a police group).
  Unprofessional behavior concerning the Attorney-General and AJ, an ex-mayor.
  What an active judicial system.
  Shifting blame onto ministers that he's meant to lead.
  Killed the Ministerial Decisions system and the Cabinet of Washington channel previously on his Discord page, abolishing all forms of transparency in favor of pure control.
  Unprofessional behavior.
  Inactivity for most of his term.

Seems like a lot more bad then your 4 points of good, doesn't it?

But let's not forget these highlights!

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Fun!

Hello, I feel as though it is only appropriate I disect your poor argument here, on the forums, for everyone to see.

An active police department is something every good mayor should maintain, it's nothing special and nothing to boast about. On top of that, the Sentinels shut down during your leadership, which was one of the better Police Departments in the recent months of Pandahut.

I agree. It is sad that having an active police department is something that I had to help achieve/boast about. However, if you do look in the recent history of Washington, this is a pretty big deal as Washington [i}was[/i] known for just constant gang violence and police incompetence. However, we now have a team of excellent police officers who are able to perform their duties to the best of their ability. I'd like to add to this you said on discord "You only have two cops, Skate and Bat-Kat, who are former criminals." Not only is this false, but is also shows a gross double standard you seem to hold. The Washington Police Force (Abreviated to WPF) has 11 members, most of whom aren't actually former criminals. Furthermore, the Sentinels (a group you seel to put on a pedestal) was , made up of former leaders of BMC, one of the most ruthless and destructive gangs Pandahut had ever seen.

Your economy was only slightly better than the last but still servicable at best. The number of businesses and business owners are far from unprecedented and your "successful businesses" and "much needed services" were casinos ran by an egocentric mayor

This is also useful in displaying your lack of knowledge on the current server events, so I don't know why you would bring it up, because it's just a lie. First, many new businesses have been created under my term, not just literally one casino. Hell, when I didn't even give funding to businesses it was still quite strong, as I practiced a policy of laissez faire . This is essential because, under previous Mayors, businesses would either become reliant on Government funding to stay afloat (usually because they weren't good business owners) or they would run a business for a shortwhile, realise it's easier to pocket government funding and spend it on something else and then we would be 25K (per business) in the hole for many of the businesses I "fund". I don't even know why I would directly fund businesses when it directly combats with the point of capitalism (profit and risk) and I ran as a Libertarian.

Furthermore, we also have a stronger economy because I convinced Miku to remove taxes . The money wasn't even going into the townbalance, it was going into some blackhole so there really was no point in taking people's money away for no reason. Overall, my tax policy change has probably saved people hundreds if not thousands of bamboo overall. While other Mayors were keen on defending it, I proposed the radical idea to Miku and she agreed, agreeing that it really does not serve no purpose anymore.

I think that if you were in game and you could see the actual economy, you would be going to one of the newly opened Cafes/Restaurants and ordering a large humble pie. However, your ignorance doesn't really hold any impact at the moment, so you can hold off on eating.

Your attempt at legalizing weaponry like shotguns just made it harder for citizens to find what's legal or not when purchasing weaponry by convulating it. From all high-cal IN GENERAL being illegal to the Determinator being legal, the Quad-barrel being illegal, the bluntforce being legal, the Desert falcon being legal, the Nykorev being illegal, the Dragonfang being illegal etc.

How on earth does that at all make it harder for civlians to find what is legal and what isn't? Like I'm genuinely confused. I'd like to add that the Bluntforce, Desert Falcon and Determinator were made legal under AJ's term because of increased pressure from his Ministers . I think you'd find that most citizens lives were made easier as a result of this change, as the majority of them are unaware of what wepaonry is currently illegal or not. This meant that they could bear arms a lot easier.

I defend my citizen's Second Amendment Rights, allowing for a far more well armed civilian population to actively combat crime. Of course, you wouldn't dare bring this up, as it directly fights against your agenda. My gun laws have made things easier for civillians and your assumption is half assed because you can't even collect the data necessary to make this argument.

Infighting between ministers over incompetence (see attached links).

I have opened and read literally every single screenshot and absolutely no evidence of that actually exists. You have no screenshot that shows that despite (maybe) the one where Zman gave an ill-informed view on the current economy. Remember that Zman was only hopping on at the weekends so he wasn't actually online enough to give an informed opinion. He has since redacted his statement. Even if there was "infighting", should I surround myself with yesmen instead of people who are critical of me and my policies? Bat-Kat is one of my greatist critics but at least, unlike you, he isn't disrespectful and bases his criticism on something he actually sees IN GAME

Unprofessional behavior concerning ministers and now disbanded police groups (see attached links).

That was Bat-Kat. Bat-Kat isn't running for Mayor, I am. If you have a problem with Bat-Kat, I'd suggest taking it up with Bat-Kat. I liked the sentinels a lot and wasd planning on pledging them a few hundred thousand when I returned, however they disbanded out of their own will so I couldn't.

General incompetence from the Minister of Commerce (who was promoting a police group).

What? Yeah, Bat-Kat was unable to write a budget for a while however he actually wrote a budget. Also I don't see why he can't promote a police group? Like seriously there's absolutely nothing wrong with that? I'm not even trying to be condescending I genuinely ca't see what's wrong with him promoting a police group. Furthermore, I put my foot down and told Bat if he doesn't write a budget he will be fired and he wrote a budget the very next day. So clearly the incompetence isn't a real thing.

Unprofessional behavior concerning the Attorney-General and AJ, an ex-mayor.

Am I not allowed to criticise my Predecessor? Like I've told AJ, I like him, I think he made a good impact on the server and his GFS was one of the most creative things the server has ever seen. But I'm not going to hold him on some sort of pedestal, he deserves criticism where criticism is due.

What an active judicial system.

Explosions has literally handled over 30 cases. You're taking one person's opinion (Flopdup) and stating it as a fact.

Shifting blame onto ministers that he's meant to lead.

Except when AJ would routinely do this you were pretty silent, weren't you? Furthermore, I can shift the blame onto Ministers for failing in their respective departments. Moreover, I put the pressure on Ministers to give me results and I demoted PhantomPear after he routinely failed to help encourage the police to be more active and gave the job to Skate, who has done miracles in helping the police.

Killed the Ministerial Decisions system and the Cabinet of Washington channel previously on his Discord page, abolishing all forms of transparency in favor of pure control.

The Ministerial system was (for the most part) bureacracy for the sake of bureacracy. Giving out ministers positions like AJ gave out government funding doesn't make the server better at all. I cut the number of ministers down because there doesn't need to be 12 ministers. Back in the day, Mayors usually had a third of that. The Ministerial branch of government was for the most part ineffective and wasted funds.

Unprofessional behavior.

I think you said it best when you said this is just a Mayoral position on Unturned, how seriously do you want me to take this? Like seriously. I've never been the most professional, everyone can attest to that. I'm not changing my character for one person, I can be professional and serious when needed, but we are playing a video game. How serious do you want me to be?

Inactivity for most of his term.

This is your only partial valid criticism, however there were issues in regards to shipping my PC and as a result, I physically couldn't control when it arrived. Besides, say what you will, I've done more meaningful things in one week than AJ and PhantomPear did throughout their entire terms.

[Curmudgeon]

Let's shovel some rubble and lift up the cudgel and realize we got a oily snek on our hands.

"I agree. It is sad that having an active police department is something that I had to help achieve/boast about. However, if you do look in the recent history of Washington, this is a pretty big deal as Washington [i}was[/i] known for just constant gang violence and police incompetence. However, we now have a team of excellent police officers who are able to perform their duties to the best of their ability. I'd like to add to this you said on discord "You only have two cops, Skate and Bat-Kat, who are former criminals." Not only is this false, but is also shows a gross double standard you seem to hold. The Washington Police Force (Abreviated to WPF) has 11 members, most of whom aren't actually former criminals. Furthermore, the Sentinels (a group you seel to put on a pedestal) was , made up of former leaders of BMC, one of the most ruthless and destructive gangs Pandahut had ever seen."

Was I referring to the members or the leaders? Also, the Sentinels were made by EX-BMC Leaders and the double standard argument does make sense. By the way, nice attempt at Italics. I'll be the first here to admit that argument was inadequate, though your ego dictates that the counter-arguments after this will prove to only show quite how prideful you are.

"This is also useful in displaying your lack of knowledge on the current server events, so I don't know why you would bring it up, because it's just a lie. First, many new businesses have been created under my term, not just literally one casino. Hell, when I didn't even give funding to businesses it was still quite strong, as I practiced a policy of laissez faire . This is essential because, under previous Mayors, businesses would either become reliant on Government funding to stay afloat (usually because they weren't good business owners) or they would run a business for a shortwhile, realise it's easier to pocket government funding and spend it on something else and then we would be 25K (per business) in the hole for many of the businesses I "fund". I don't even know why I would directly fund businesses when it directly combats with the point of capitalism (profit and risk) and I ran as a Libertarian.

Furthermore, we also have a stronger economy because I convinced Miku to remove taxes . The money wasn't even going into the townbalance, it was going into some blackhole so there really was no point in taking people's money away for no reason. Overall, my tax policy change has probably saved people hundreds if not thousands of bamboo overall. While other Mayors were keen on defending it, I proposed the radical idea to Miku and she agreed, agreeing that it really does not serve no purpose anymore.

I think that if you were in game and you could see the actual economy, you would be going to one of the newly opened Cafes/Restaurants and ordering a large humble pie. However, your ignorance doesn't really hold any impact at the moment, so you can hold off on eating."

That is a direct lie, many businesses after AJ's term stayed afloat and the talk between Needless & AJ proves that.
Also, since taxes weren't gifting you money for your paycheck, you wanted it removed. I bet 100 BB on that. Also, don't act like your government is a rosey haven where sentient ostriches are drinking tea from cafe's made of rainbows. I'm sure I will see quite the opposite once I enter the server again.

"How on earth does that at all make it harder for civlians to find what is legal and what isn't? Like I'm genuinely confused. I'd like to add that the Bluntforce, Desert Falcon and Determinator were made legal under AJ's term because of increased pressure from his Ministers . I think you'd find that most citizens lives were made easier as a result of this change, as the majority of them are unaware of what wepaonry is currently illegal or not. This meant that they could bear arms a lot easier.

I defend my citizen's Second Amendment Rights, allowing for a far more well armed civilian population to actively combat crime. Of course, you wouldn't dare bring this up, as it directly fights against your agenda. My gun laws have made things easier for civillians and your assumption is half assed because you can't even collect the data necessary to make this argument.
"
Didn't you just say AJ was the one that did that..?
Also, you indeed defended people's second amendment rights in Unturned where the second amendment doesn't exist.
Ohhh, you mean you gave criminals legal access to shotguns to defend against arrests?
Or do you mean you want mob-violence to sweep the streets and protect Seattle.. I wonder which.
Also, I declare my political agenda is putting the ex-minister of sandwiches, Yoshi, as Mayor! Except I have none and I have no reason to have an agenda, so your point there doesn't make sense.

"I have opened and read literally every single screenshot and absolutely no evidence of that actually exists. You have no screenshot that shows that despite (maybe) the one where Zman gave an ill-informed view on the current economy. Remember that Zman was only hopping on at the weekends so he wasn't actually online enough to give an informed opinion. He has since redacted his statement. Even if there was "infighting", should I surround myself with yesmen instead of people who are critical of me and my policies? Bat-Kat is one of my greatist critics but at least, unlike you, he isn't disrespectful and bases his criticism on something he actually sees IN GAME"

I truly believe you've either boiled your brains in the spit-stained echo-chambers of your government or you've become illiterate just from a batch of screenshots.
Infighting between ministers, not you. I'm glad to see you've not lost your passive-aggressive luster, it's almost like you're a toxic influence that only spreads to whoever he's with or against... See your ministers posts for a reference. The point is that your government was failing to be unified, the Vice Mayor was apparently ill-informed for most of your term despite at the time being more active than you, who never stepped foot on the server until like the 26th despite being the Mayor.

"That was Bat-Kat. Bat-Kat isn't running for Mayor, I am. If you have a problem with Bat-Kat, I'd suggest taking it up with Bat-Kat. I liked the sentinels a lot and wasd planning on pledging them a few hundred thousand when I returned, however they disbanded out of their own will so I couldn't."

Dodging the point, huh...? They disbanded as a partial consequence of your ministers aggressive toxicity. Something I believe Zero even stated. Also, funny of you to go against them for being comprised of ex-BMC members before you backtrack a few paragraphs later... It's almost like you're inconsistent and manipulative, with no set belief or stance besides the one which benefits himself the most. Bat-Kat was a member of your own feeble government system... Don't you remember or did you lose literacy and gain dementia?

"What? Yeah, Bat-Kat was unable to write a budget for a while however he actually wrote a budget. Also I don't see why he can't promote a police group? Like seriously there's absolutely nothing wrong with that? I'm not even trying to be condescending I genuinely ca't see what's wrong with him promoting a police group. Furthermore, I put my foot down and told Bat if he doesn't write a budget he will be fired and he wrote a budget the very next day. So clearly the incompetence isn't a real thing."

Nice grammar.
Also, dodging the point once more! The point is incompetence regarding even making a basic Discord server, not your weird raving rants about the budget.

"Am I not allowed to criticise my Predecessor? Like I've told AJ, I like him, I think he made a good impact on the server and his GFS was one of the most creative things the server has ever seen. But I'm not going to hold him on some sort of pedestal, he deserves criticism where criticism is due."

Mattcobra is officially the Judge, Jury and Executioner now! Oh yeah, and the attorney! AND THE ATTORNEY GENERAL!
See what I mean by egocentric? That or self-centered


"Explosions has literally handled over 30 cases. You're taking one person's opinion (Flopdup) and stating it as a fact."

I feel that it's quite rude to discredit Flopdup's opinion, he's a clever guy who I'm glad to see you undermining because it gives me another belly laugh for the day about your toxicity and blaming.
Explosions has said that he's like handled 15 in his own post. Also, that's a singular judge. The legal system consists of a single fucking judge who's working his ass off, a single judge who will likely quit if another candidate wins because he's only working for private investment from Mattcobra, just like a lot of others who suddenly started to get in the trade (I'm serious, according to him, too bad he cockblocked me from screenshotting things by banning me)

"Except when AJ would routinely do this you were pretty silent, weren't you? Furthermore, I can shift the blame onto Ministers for failing in their respective departments. Moreover, I put the pressure on Ministers to give me results and I demoted PhantomPear after he routinely failed to help encourage the police to be more active and gave the job to Skate, who has done miracles in helping the police."

I literally didn't have internet for his entire term. Your pressure still doesn't solve your "totally not yesmen" goverment's incompetence mentioned previously.
Also, now I understand, that's why you made departments for each general vague aspect of government. So you have supporters to shovel into the flames to satiate people's short-term bloodlust when you're in an argument for muckin' things up. Or doing so little that your inactivity mucks things up.

"The Ministerial system was (for the most part) bureacracy for the sake of bureacracy. Giving out ministers positions like AJ gave out government funding doesn't make the server better at all. I cut the number of ministers down because there doesn't need to be 12 ministers. Back in the day, Mayors usually had a third of that. The Ministerial branch of government was for the most part ineffective and wasted funds."

You're talking about the 2nd amendment and all that but you can't even handle bureacracy in your government?
Huh.. Also, point dodging once more.

"I think you said it best when you said this is just a Mayoral position on Unturned, how seriously do you want me to take this? Like seriously. I've never been the most professional, everyone can attest to that. I'm not changing my character for one person, I can be professional and serious when needed, but we are playing a video game. How serious do you want me to be?"

Me saying unprofessional was a polite way of showing that you guys were toxic... And you were, in all honesty.

"This is your only partial valid criticism, however there were issues in regards to shipping my PC and as a result, I physically couldn't control when it arrived. Besides, say what you will, I've done more meaningful things in one week than AJ and PhantomPear did throughout their entire terms."

Meaningful doesn't have to be positive and I think we can see that with how this term of your government turned out.


And no, I won't be formatting this much because I want to show my opinion and responses in as raw a form as possible, not something conjoured up over the course of over 12 hours.

EDIT: I WAS WRONG ON THE POINT OF THE SENTINELS DISBANDING AND I WOULD LIKE TO APOLOGIZE FOR MAKING A FALSE STATEMENT

[PeachyPoro]

MattCobra for mayor! He has done a great job and won the last election with a landslide!

[NeedlessMemeing]

Let's shovel some rubble and lift up the cudgel and realize we got a oily snek on our hands.

"I agree. It is sad that having an active police department is something that I had to help achieve/boast about. However, if you do look in the recent history of Washington, this is a pretty big deal as Washington [i}was[/i] known for just constant gang violence and police incompetence. However, we now have a team of excellent police officers who are able to perform their duties to the best of their ability. I'd like to add to this you said on discord "You only have two cops, Skate and Bat-Kat, who are former criminals." Not only is this false, but is also shows a gross double standard you seem to hold. The Washington Police Force (Abreviated to WPF) has 11 members, most of whom aren't actually former criminals. Furthermore, the Sentinels (a group you seel to put on a pedestal) was , made up of former leaders of BMC, one of the most ruthless and destructive gangs Pandahut had ever seen."

Was I referring to the members or the leaders? Also, the Sentinels were made by EX-BMC Leaders and the double standard argument does make sense. By the way, nice attempt at Italics. I'll be the first here to admit that argument was inadequate, though your ego dictates that the counter-arguments after this will prove to only show quite how prideful you are.

"This is also useful in displaying your lack of knowledge on the current server events, so I don't know why you would bring it up, because it's just a lie. First, many new businesses have been created under my term, not just literally one casino. Hell, when I didn't even give funding to businesses it was still quite strong, as I practiced a policy of laissez faire . This is essential because, under previous Mayors, businesses would either become reliant on Government funding to stay afloat (usually because they weren't good business owners) or they would run a business for a shortwhile, realise it's easier to pocket government funding and spend it on something else and then we would be 25K (per business) in the hole for many of the businesses I "fund". I don't even know why I would directly fund businesses when it directly combats with the point of capitalism (profit and risk) and I ran as a Libertarian.

Furthermore, we also have a stronger economy because I convinced Miku to remove taxes . The money wasn't even going into the townbalance, it was going into some blackhole so there really was no point in taking people's money away for no reason. Overall, my tax policy change has probably saved people hundreds if not thousands of bamboo overall. While other Mayors were keen on defending it, I proposed the radical idea to Miku and she agreed, agreeing that it really does not serve no purpose anymore.

I think that if you were in game and you could see the actual economy, you would be going to one of the newly opened Cafes/Restaurants and ordering a large humble pie. However, your ignorance doesn't really hold any impact at the moment, so you can hold off on eating."

That is a direct lie, many businesses after AJ's term stayed afloat and the talk between Needless & AJ proves that.
Also, since taxes weren't gifting you money for your paycheck, you wanted it removed. I bet 100 BB on that. Also, don't act like your government is a rosey haven where sentient ostriches are drinking tea from cafe's made of rainbows. I'm sure I will see quite the opposite once I enter the server again.

"How on earth does that at all make it harder for civlians to find what is legal and what isn't? Like I'm genuinely confused. I'd like to add that the Bluntforce, Desert Falcon and Determinator were made legal under AJ's term because of increased pressure from his Ministers . I think you'd find that most citizens lives were made easier as a result of this change, as the majority of them are unaware of what wepaonry is currently illegal or not. This meant that they could bear arms a lot easier.

I defend my citizen's Second Amendment Rights, allowing for a far more well armed civilian population to actively combat crime. Of course, you wouldn't dare bring this up, as it directly fights against your agenda. My gun laws have made things easier for civillians and your assumption is half assed because you can't even collect the data necessary to make this argument.
"
Didn't you just say AJ was the one that did that..?
Also, you indeed defended people's second amendment rights in Unturned where the second amendment doesn't exist.
Ohhh, you mean you gave criminals legal access to shotguns to defend against arrests?
Or do you mean you want mob-violence to sweep the streets and protect Seattle.. I wonder which.
Also, I declare my political agenda is putting the ex-minister of sandwiches, Yoshi, as Mayor! Except I have none and I have no reason to have an agenda, so your point there doesn't make sense.

"I have opened and read literally every single screenshot and absolutely no evidence of that actually exists. You have no screenshot that shows that despite (maybe) the one where Zman gave an ill-informed view on the current economy. Remember that Zman was only hopping on at the weekends so he wasn't actually online enough to give an informed opinion. He has since redacted his statement. Even if there was "infighting", should I surround myself with yesmen instead of people who are critical of me and my policies? Bat-Kat is one of my greatist critics but at least, unlike you, he isn't disrespectful and bases his criticism on something he actually sees IN GAME"

I truly believe you've either boiled your brains in the spit-stained echo-chambers of your government or you've become illiterate just from a batch of screenshots.
Infighting between ministers, not you. I'm glad to see you've not lost your passive-aggressive luster, it's almost like you're a toxic influence that only spreads to whoever he's with or against... See your ministers posts for a reference. The point is that your government was failing to be unified, the Vice Mayor was apparently ill-informed for most of your term despite at the time being more active than you, who never stepped foot on the server until like the 26th despite being the Mayor.

"That was Bat-Kat. Bat-Kat isn't running for Mayor, I am. If you have a problem with Bat-Kat, I'd suggest taking it up with Bat-Kat. I liked the sentinels a lot and wasd planning on pledging them a few hundred thousand when I returned, however they disbanded out of their own will so I couldn't."

Dodging the point, huh...? They disbanded as a partial consequence of your ministers aggressive toxicity. Something I believe Zero even stated. Also, funny of you to go against them for being comprised of ex-BMC members before you backtrack a few paragraphs later... It's almost like you're inconsistent and manipulative, with no set belief or stance besides the one which benefits himself the most. Bat-Kat was a member of your own feeble government system... Don't you remember or did you lose literacy and gain dementia?

"What? Yeah, Bat-Kat was unable to write a budget for a while however he actually wrote a budget. Also I don't see why he can't promote a police group? Like seriously there's absolutely nothing wrong with that? I'm not even trying to be condescending I genuinely ca't see what's wrong with him promoting a police group. Furthermore, I put my foot down and told Bat if he doesn't write a budget he will be fired and he wrote a budget the very next day. So clearly the incompetence isn't a real thing."

Nice grammar.
Also, dodging the point once more! The point is incompetence regarding even making a basic Discord server, not your weird raving rants about the budget.

"Am I not allowed to criticise my Predecessor? Like I've told AJ, I like him, I think he made a good impact on the server and his GFS was one of the most creative things the server has ever seen. But I'm not going to hold him on some sort of pedestal, he deserves criticism where criticism is due."

Mattcobra is officially the Judge, Jury and Executioner now! Oh yeah, and the attorney! AND THE ATTORNEY GENERAL!
See what I mean by egocentric? That or self-centered


"Explosions has literally handled over 30 cases. You're taking one person's opinion (Flopdup) and stating it as a fact."

I feel that it's quite rude to discredit Flopdup's opinion, he's a clever guy who I'm glad to see you undermining because it gives me another belly laugh for the day about your toxicity and blaming.
Explosions has said that he's like handled 15 in his own post. Also, that's a singular judge. The legal system consists of a single fucking judge who's working his ass off, a single judge who will likely quit if another candidate wins because he's only working for private investment from Mattcobra, just like a lot of others who suddenly started to get in the trade (I'm serious, according to him, too bad he cockblocked me from screenshotting things by banning me)

"Except when AJ would routinely do this you were pretty silent, weren't you? Furthermore, I can shift the blame onto Ministers for failing in their respective departments. Moreover, I put the pressure on Ministers to give me results and I demoted PhantomPear after he routinely failed to help encourage the police to be more active and gave the job to Skate, who has done miracles in helping the police."

I literally didn't have internet for his entire term. Your pressure still doesn't solve your "totally not yesmen" goverment's incompetence mentioned previously.
Also, now I understand, that's why you made departments for each general vague aspect of government. So you have supporters to shovel into the flames to satiate people's short-term bloodlust when you're in an argument for muckin' things up. Or doing so little that your inactivity mucks things up.

"The Ministerial system was (for the most part) bureacracy for the sake of bureacracy. Giving out ministers positions like AJ gave out government funding doesn't make the server better at all. I cut the number of ministers down because there doesn't need to be 12 ministers. Back in the day, Mayors usually had a third of that. The Ministerial branch of government was for the most part ineffective and wasted funds."

You're talking about the 2nd amendment and all that but you can't even handle bureacracy in your government?
Huh.. Also, point dodging once more.

"I think you said it best when you said this is just a Mayoral position on Unturned, how seriously do you want me to take this? Like seriously. I've never been the most professional, everyone can attest to that. I'm not changing my character for one person, I can be professional and serious when needed, but we are playing a video game. How serious do you want me to be?"

Me saying unprofessional was a polite way of showing that you guys were toxic... And you were, in all honesty.

"This is your only partial valid criticism, however there were issues in regards to shipping my PC and as a result, I physically couldn't control when it arrived. Besides, say what you will, I've done more meaningful things in one week than AJ and PhantomPear did throughout their entire terms."

Meaningful doesn't have to be positive and I think we can see that with how this term of your government turned out.


And no, I won't be formatting this much because I want to show my opinion and responses in as raw a form as possible, not something conjoured up over the course of over 12 hours.

I shall start my counterargument with a simple introduction:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQCU36pkH7c

I am personally not going to be delving into the substance of your response, as MattCobra has a much better and thorough criticism that he will surely post after mine. What I wish to inquire into is 'why?' Why are you wasting your time? What is it about MattCobra running for mayor that has you so riled up that you must type essay-length responses to try and defame him? I really, really, want to know why this is so important to you? Your reply sounds like you are on the edge of calling Matt a slur. I am under the belief that you have quit the server, so why is it necessary for you to continue accusing Matt of so many immediately-debunked claims? This is borderline obsessive, and the fact you are dedicating so much time to a server which you are no longer part of, nay a community which you are no longer part of, begs the question: 'why?'

All I am after is an answer.

[Danny Dog]

Let's shovel some rubble and lift up the cudgel and realize we got a oily snek on our hands.

"I agree. It is sad that having an active police department is something that I had to help achieve/boast about. However, if you do look in the recent history of Washington, this is a pretty big deal as Washington [i}was[/i] known for just constant gang violence and police incompetence. However, we now have a team of excellent police officers who are able to perform their duties to the best of their ability. I'd like to add to this you said on discord "You only have two cops, Skate and Bat-Kat, who are former criminals." Not only is this false, but is also shows a gross double standard you seem to hold. The Washington Police Force (Abreviated to WPF) has 11 members, most of whom aren't actually former criminals. Furthermore, the Sentinels (a group you seel to put on a pedestal) was , made up of former leaders of BMC, one of the most ruthless and destructive gangs Pandahut had ever seen."

Was I referring to the members or the leaders? Also, the Sentinels were made by EX-BMC Leaders and the double standard argument does make sense. By the way, nice attempt at Italics. I'll be the first here to admit that argument was inadequate, though your ego dictates that the counter-arguments after this will prove to only show quite how prideful you are.

"This is also useful in displaying your lack of knowledge on the current server events, so I don't know why you would bring it up, because it's just a lie. First, many new businesses have been created under my term, not just literally one casino. Hell, when I didn't even give funding to businesses it was still quite strong, as I practiced a policy of laissez faire . This is essential because, under previous Mayors, businesses would either become reliant on Government funding to stay afloat (usually because they weren't good business owners) or they would run a business for a shortwhile, realise it's easier to pocket government funding and spend it on something else and then we would be 25K (per business) in the hole for many of the businesses I "fund". I don't even know why I would directly fund businesses when it directly combats with the point of capitalism (profit and risk) and I ran as a Libertarian.

Furthermore, we also have a stronger economy because I convinced Miku to remove taxes . The money wasn't even going into the townbalance, it was going into some blackhole so there really was no point in taking people's money away for no reason. Overall, my tax policy change has probably saved people hundreds if not thousands of bamboo overall. While other Mayors were keen on defending it, I proposed the radical idea to Miku and she agreed, agreeing that it really does not serve no purpose anymore.

I think that if you were in game and you could see the actual economy, you would be going to one of the newly opened Cafes/Restaurants and ordering a large humble pie. However, your ignorance doesn't really hold any impact at the moment, so you can hold off on eating."

That is a direct lie, many businesses after AJ's term stayed afloat and the talk between Needless & AJ proves that.
Also, since taxes weren't gifting you money for your paycheck, you wanted it removed. I bet 100 BB on that. Also, don't act like your government is a rosey haven where sentient ostriches are drinking tea from cafe's made of rainbows. I'm sure I will see quite the opposite once I enter the server again.

"How on earth does that at all make it harder for civlians to find what is legal and what isn't? Like I'm genuinely confused. I'd like to add that the Bluntforce, Desert Falcon and Determinator were made legal under AJ's term because of increased pressure from his Ministers . I think you'd find that most citizens lives were made easier as a result of this change, as the majority of them are unaware of what wepaonry is currently illegal or not. This meant that they could bear arms a lot easier.

I defend my citizen's Second Amendment Rights, allowing for a far more well armed civilian population to actively combat crime. Of course, you wouldn't dare bring this up, as it directly fights against your agenda. My gun laws have made things easier for civillians and your assumption is half assed because you can't even collect the data necessary to make this argument.
"
Didn't you just say AJ was the one that did that..?
Also, you indeed defended people's second amendment rights in Unturned where the second amendment doesn't exist.
Ohhh, you mean you gave criminals legal access to shotguns to defend against arrests?
Or do you mean you want mob-violence to sweep the streets and protect Seattle.. I wonder which.
Also, I declare my political agenda is putting the ex-minister of sandwiches, Yoshi, as Mayor! Except I have none and I have no reason to have an agenda, so your point there doesn't make sense.

"I have opened and read literally every single screenshot and absolutely no evidence of that actually exists. You have no screenshot that shows that despite (maybe) the one where Zman gave an ill-informed view on the current economy. Remember that Zman was only hopping on at the weekends so he wasn't actually online enough to give an informed opinion. He has since redacted his statement. Even if there was "infighting", should I surround myself with yesmen instead of people who are critical of me and my policies? Bat-Kat is one of my greatist critics but at least, unlike you, he isn't disrespectful and bases his criticism on something he actually sees IN GAME"

I truly believe you've either boiled your brains in the spit-stained echo-chambers of your government or you've become illiterate just from a batch of screenshots.
Infighting between ministers, not you. I'm glad to see you've not lost your passive-aggressive luster, it's almost like you're a toxic influence that only spreads to whoever he's with or against... See your ministers posts for a reference. The point is that your government was failing to be unified, the Vice Mayor was apparently ill-informed for most of your term despite at the time being more active than you, who never stepped foot on the server until like the 26th despite being the Mayor.

"That was Bat-Kat. Bat-Kat isn't running for Mayor, I am. If you have a problem with Bat-Kat, I'd suggest taking it up with Bat-Kat. I liked the sentinels a lot and wasd planning on pledging them a few hundred thousand when I returned, however they disbanded out of their own will so I couldn't."

Dodging the point, huh...? They disbanded as a partial consequence of your ministers aggressive toxicity. Something I believe Zero even stated. Also, funny of you to go against them for being comprised of ex-BMC members before you backtrack a few paragraphs later... It's almost like you're inconsistent and manipulative, with no set belief or stance besides the one which benefits himself the most. Bat-Kat was a member of your own feeble government system... Don't you remember or did you lose literacy and gain dementia?

"What? Yeah, Bat-Kat was unable to write a budget for a while however he actually wrote a budget. Also I don't see why he can't promote a police group? Like seriously there's absolutely nothing wrong with that? I'm not even trying to be condescending I genuinely ca't see what's wrong with him promoting a police group. Furthermore, I put my foot down and told Bat if he doesn't write a budget he will be fired and he wrote a budget the very next day. So clearly the incompetence isn't a real thing."

Nice grammar.
Also, dodging the point once more! The point is incompetence regarding even making a basic Discord server, not your weird raving rants about the budget.

"Am I not allowed to criticise my Predecessor? Like I've told AJ, I like him, I think he made a good impact on the server and his GFS was one of the most creative things the server has ever seen. But I'm not going to hold him on some sort of pedestal, he deserves criticism where criticism is due."

Mattcobra is officially the Judge, Jury and Executioner now! Oh yeah, and the attorney! AND THE ATTORNEY GENERAL!
See what I mean by egocentric? That or self-centered


"Explosions has literally handled over 30 cases. You're taking one person's opinion (Flopdup) and stating it as a fact."

I feel that it's quite rude to discredit Flopdup's opinion, he's a clever guy who I'm glad to see you undermining because it gives me another belly laugh for the day about your toxicity and blaming.
Explosions has said that he's like handled 15 in his own post. Also, that's a singular judge. The legal system consists of a single fucking judge who's working his ass off, a single judge who will likely quit if another candidate wins because he's only working for private investment from Mattcobra, just like a lot of others who suddenly started to get in the trade (I'm serious, according to him, too bad he cockblocked me from screenshotting things by banning me)

"Except when AJ would routinely do this you were pretty silent, weren't you? Furthermore, I can shift the blame onto Ministers for failing in their respective departments. Moreover, I put the pressure on Ministers to give me results and I demoted PhantomPear after he routinely failed to help encourage the police to be more active and gave the job to Skate, who has done miracles in helping the police."

I literally didn't have internet for his entire term. Your pressure still doesn't solve your "totally not yesmen" goverment's incompetence mentioned previously.
Also, now I understand, that's why you made departments for each general vague aspect of government. So you have supporters to shovel into the flames to satiate people's short-term bloodlust when you're in an argument for muckin' things up. Or doing so little that your inactivity mucks things up.

"The Ministerial system was (for the most part) bureacracy for the sake of bureacracy. Giving out ministers positions like AJ gave out government funding doesn't make the server better at all. I cut the number of ministers down because there doesn't need to be 12 ministers. Back in the day, Mayors usually had a third of that. The Ministerial branch of government was for the most part ineffective and wasted funds."

You're talking about the 2nd amendment and all that but you can't even handle bureacracy in your government?
Huh.. Also, point dodging once more.

"I think you said it best when you said this is just a Mayoral position on Unturned, how seriously do you want me to take this? Like seriously. I've never been the most professional, everyone can attest to that. I'm not changing my character for one person, I can be professional and serious when needed, but we are playing a video game. How serious do you want me to be?"

Me saying unprofessional was a polite way of showing that you guys were toxic... And you were, in all honesty.

"This is your only partial valid criticism, however there were issues in regards to shipping my PC and as a result, I physically couldn't control when it arrived. Besides, say what you will, I've done more meaningful things in one week than AJ and PhantomPear did throughout their entire terms."

Meaningful doesn't have to be positive and I think we can see that with how this term of your government turned out.


And no, I won't be formatting this much because I want to show my opinion and responses in as raw a form as possible, not something conjoured up over the course of over 12 hours.

Fuck off ya cunt Matts the best mayor and I'll vote him any day you little shit fuck off back to your hole where you jack off into a bag of Doritos and let the man run for mayor

[ShrewdShroud]

#OneMoreMonth
Great mayor. Breathed life into RP again. He is the reason taxes were removed.
Citizens could be given more guns in the next term tho. ;)

[Quavo]

MATT KNOWS WHATS RIGHT HE IS A GOOD TRUMP SUPPORTER PUT YOUR FAITH IN MATT!
#OneMoreMonth

[MattCobra]

Again, your arguments are flawed. But sure, let's go on.

Was I referring to the members or the leaders? Also, the Sentinels were made by EX-BMC Leaders and the double standard argument does make sense. By the way, nice attempt at Italics. I'll be the first here to admit that argument was inadequate, though your ego dictates that the counter-arguments after this will prove to only show quite how prideful you are.

This makes little to no sense and it does not at all combat my statement. The Sentinels were made up of former BMC leaders - FACT. The WPF have some former criminals amongst their ranks - ALSO FACT. So is there a problem with me saying that a strong police force was formed under my term? Also, you really made your argument stronger when you pointed out I made a formatting issue when trying to use italics.

That is a direct lie, many businesses after AJ's term stayed afloat and the talk between Needless & AJ proves that.
Also, since taxes weren't gifting you money for your paycheck, you wanted it removed. I bet 100 BB on that.

Name one. Please name one business that stayed afloat after AJ's term. Furhtermore, what talk between Needless and AJ? Where was this conversation? I can have Needless go on the record to say that a conversation like that never happened? I tried finding it but I can't, so some citation is needed.

Also I had taxes removed because THEY WERE POINTLESS. I also don't take a paycheck for being a Mayor (except the one which the server gives me which I can't control, obviously.) You aren't a mind reader, Curum and you certainly know very little about me, so your argument that I wouldn't have removed taxes if they gave the government funds is flawed on every level.

Also, don't act like your government is a rosey haven where sentient ostriches are drinking tea from cafe's made of rainbows. I'm sure I will see quite the opposite once I enter the server again

This seems like an attempt at comedy, however it really wasn't funny and the only comedy the citizens have seen is your half assed response. I'm sorry I just think this comment is quite cringey and like a "Random = funny XD" type of attitude.

Didn't you just say AJ was the one that did that..?
Also, you indeed defended people's second amendment rights in Unturned where the second amendment doesn't exist.
Ohhh, you mean you gave criminals legal access to shotguns to defend against arrests?
Or do you mean you want mob-violence to sweep the streets and protect Seattle.. I wonder which.
Also, I declare my political agenda is putting the ex-minister of sandwiches, Yoshi, as Mayor! Except I have none and I have no reason to have an agenda, so your point there doesn't make sense.

AJ did make those legal changes, albeit reluctantly and with increased pressure from my movement, the Pandahut Libertarian Party. Also yes, I defended their second amendment rights on a Roleplay server set in the United States of America, where they have a second amendment. I don't think it's a stretch of the imagination to say that the American constitution applies to the server. Not like whether or not there is a constitution matters, as you are arguing over semantics in this point, not challenging anything.

I don't think making shotguns illegal ever stopped criminals from using them. Criminals will commit crime, it's kind of in the name. The way you said this suggests that "without these deregulations, criminalsnever used shotguns!" which I think we both know, as experienced police officers, is untrue. Your comment about mob violence is quite colourful, these deregulations have been in place for almost a month and I think everyone can confirm there hasn't been "mob-violence to sweep the streets and protect Seattle". If allowing citizens to effectively defend themselves against criminals is a bad thing then you must have some rose tinted view of the capability of the police. A robbery lasts up to 40 seconds. That is sometimes not enough time for an adequate police response. A hitman executing a hit is instantaneous, meaning that if you need to defend yourself, a shotgun is most the time your best option.

I also find it interesting that you abandoned your point about lax gun laws "confusing the citizens" when the law book was publicly published a long time ago and citizens were made instantly aware of the changes.

Also, I declare my political agenda is putting the ex-minister of sandwiches, Yoshi, as Mayor! Except I have none and I have no reason to have an agenda, so your point there doesn't make sense.

You do have an agenda. You have an agenda agaisnt me, a bias, a determination to criticise my movement. That is fine of course, everybody has an agenda, I just don't know why you masked yours in such a way which is again, a poor attempt at comedy.

I truly believe you've either boiled your brains in the spit-stained echo-chambers of your government or you've become illiterate just from a batch of screenshots.
Infighting between ministers, not you. I'm glad to see you've not lost your passive-aggressive luster, it's almost like you're a toxic influence that only spreads to whoever he's with or against... See your ministers posts for a reference. The point is that your government was failing to be unified, the Vice Mayor was apparently ill-informed for most of your term despite at the time being more active than you, who never stepped foot on the server until like the 26th despite being the Mayor.

I find your insults comical. It really is a good reflection of your character, it shows you are unable to engage in any form of debate without insulting the person you are opposed to. This isn't even an argument, it's just a blatant insult which doesn't make you look any better in all honesty. You know that my government was failing to be unified how...? You aren't in government, all you saw is what the public saw. I'm not going to lie and say that the government stuck together on every issue etc, we didn't. We are people with our own views, our own viewpoints. But we were never disunified, we were certainly more unified than some of the other governments in recent years, although your opinion on government unity is very misinformed because you have never been in any government depsite Duke's, which was 2-3 years ago, when you were 11

Dodging the point, huh...? They disbanded as a partial consequence of your ministers aggressive toxicity. Something I believe Zero even stated. Also, funny of you to go against them for being comprised of ex-BMC members before you backtrack a few paragraphs later... It's almost like you're inconsistent and manipulative, with no set belief or stance besides the one which benefits himself the most. Bat-Kat was a member of your own feeble government system... Don't you remember or did you lose literacy and gain dementia?

Dodging the point? What point did I dodge? They didnt' disband because of Bat-Kat, that is ludicrous. Outspace is literally at bootcamp and wont be back for a few months, Zero and Yoshi are both busy with events happening in real life and that's just the leaders. Furthermore, I'm not against them for being in BMC, you are putting words in my mouth. I was saying that you have a double standard, as you openly supported the Sentinels - a group which was made by criminals when they wanted to be police but you ostricised the WPF because their leaders are former criminals. I have no problem with people changing their role to become a police officer, as people should be able to change what they do on the server.

Furthermore, this "argument" contains even more name calling, something which you seem very keen on doing. I assume it is a result of immaturity however I don't know why you have such an issue.

Also, dodging the point once more! The point is incompetence regarding even making a basic Discord server, not your weird raving rants about the budget.

If you call what I said about the budget a "rant" then I ponder, what word can be used to describe your ranting, raving and rambling? I'm sorry if I couldn't understand your really, really, really badly formatted argument. There weren't any problems in regards to the discord server for his police department, I currently have admin and am able to see and read every chat. I was being responsible by not blindly throwing my support behind a police group which I (at the time) knew very little about. I wanted to have oversight to make sure they were all performing their jobs to the best of their ability.

Edit: Even AJ agreed that it was just me being responsible.

Mattcobra is officially the Judge, Jury and Executioner now! Oh yeah, and the attorney! AND THE ATTORNEY GENERAL!
See what I mean by egocentric? That or self-centered

Pardon me? I literally made criticisms about AJ, like how you made crticisms about me how does that make me the Judge,Jury and Executioner? This point makes absolutely no sense. Also again, the last part, more player diss. I wonder if this is really what you think or maybe this is a way of masking your own insecurities about being these things? By calling others it? I'd reccomend talking about this with your parents.

I feel that it's quite rude to discredit Flopdup's opinion, he's a clever guy who I'm glad to see you undermining because it gives me another belly laugh for the day about your toxicity and blaming.
Explosions has said that he's like handled 15 in his own post. Also, that's a singular judge. The legal system consists of a single fucking judge who's working his ass off, a single judge who will likely quit if another candidate wins because he's only working for private investment from Mattcobra, just like a lot of others who suddenly started to get in the trade (I'm serious, according to him, too bad he cockblocked me from screenshotting things by banning me)

I'm not discrediting Flopdup's opinion and I agree with your views on Flopdup. I was saying that you are taking the testimony of ONE person and saying "This is fact". It doesn't matter who the opinion is from, you need more than just one person to attest to it.

I'd also like to add that Explosions told me in a VC that he has handled and I quote "like 30". Those were his words. There were plenty of people in the vc who can attest to the fact that those were his exact words. Also working his ass off? Seriously. He is working hard, but cases aren't happening all the time, as some criminals would prefer to be shot by the police instead of taken to court. Furthermore, private investment? I didn't "privately invest" into the DOJ, I paid them out of my own balance to save the tax payers some money. By that logic, AJ who spent plenty of his own money on government and police was "privately investing" into the police department. Does this mean that AJ had the cops on his payroll so that he can control Washington and take out dissent!?!? Of course not, that is ludicrous. Do you see where this line of thinking gets you?

I literally didn't have internet for his entire term. Your pressure still doesn't solve your "totally not yesmen" goverment's incompetence mentioned previously.
Also, now I understand, that's why you made departments for each general vague aspect of government. So you have supporters to shovel into the flames to satiate people's short-term bloodlust when you're in an argument for muckin' things up. Or doing so little that your inactivity mucks things up.

I didn't create any new departments or ministries under my term as Mayor - I did the contrary, so that point is debunked.

"I literally didn't have internet for his entire term" So does this explain your "If I'm a shit stirer, why didn't I stir shit during AJ's term?" question? I'd also like to add you aren't one to comment on activity when you haven't been on the server in two months, although like I said, your activity is your only valid criticism.

You're talking about the 2nd amendment and all that but you can't even handle bureacracy in your government?
Huh.. Also, point dodging once more.

Where did I dodge the point? Your point was "You got rid of the Ministerial decision process and the cabinet process" which isn't true. I reduced the number of ministers, which is a fact, but I never got rid of them. Even if I did, the second amendment which is literally (oversimplified) "The right of the people to bear arms" is far less complicated than "Have a minister of Seattle, Minister of Tacoma, Minister of Events, Minister of intelligence..." you get the idea. There needs to be a limit here and I don't think it is at all appropraite to have tens of ministers when my reduces number of ministers and myself are perfectly capable of executing these duties on our own instead of giving minister positions out like candy, which is silly and reckless.

Me saying unprofessional was a polite way of showing that you guys were toxic... And you were, in all honesty.

Those in glass houses can't throw stones, Curum. Your entire posts reek of toxicity and I'm sure the entire community can attest to that.

Meaningful doesn't have to be positive and I think we can see that with how this term of your government turned out.

You're right, we can see how it turned out. With a stronger economy, stronger police force and a stronger judicial system.

You are not giving criticism, you are giving hatred. This election has hardly started and YOU have turned it toxic.

I anticipate your response. But the movement will not be dying out because of a small minority of hate.

[Curmudgeon]

"This election has hardly started and YOU have turned it toxic."

"Fuck off ya cunt Matts the best mayor and I'll vote him any day you little shit fuck off back to your hole where you jack off into a bag of Doritos and let the man run for mayor"
Beautiful, in all honesty.

I don't even know where to start, I am overwhelmed with stupidity the likes I have never seen.