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New Role + New Rule

Unread postPosted:March 5th, 2018, 8:50 pm
by Yoseph
Hello, I have brought this idea up before but it didn't get much feedback.
The idea that i propose is that players are NOT allowed to build their own bases anymore. Players must take over any prebuilt structures (buildings that are made with the map) such as alberton fire station, or stratford gun shop, and all other houses. The reason this will be great is because the lag will be greatly reduced since there will be no player built bases everywhere. Secondly, this will make raiding descriptions insanely easy. Think about it, all you will have to type is "/raid 'alberton fire station'". There will be no confusion. Thirdly, this will make it insanely easy for staff members to check for falsely raided bases since the description of the bases are very simple. To sum this up, players will not be able to build their own bases, but they must take over prebuilt bases such as the alberton fire station.
New Role - Real Estate Agent
So now about the new role. This new role will be "Real Estate Agent", for those of you who don't know, they sell houses. Since all player bases must be prebuilt, real estate agents must sell the houses. You are only allowed to move into a house once you've purchased it from a real estate agent.
How will this work?
Lets say the brown building in charlottetown is for sale, then a real estate agent ONLY will advertise that house until it is purchased. Once purchases the new house owners can build doors and windows to claim their new base. There can also be a rent feature added, where you have to pay the real estate agent rent every real life day real life week. Mortgage can also be included if you want to get very creative. Lets say you raid a base, charlottetown brown house, 2 stories, you will NOT be able to claim that base as your own, as you must buy it from a real estate agent if the owners of that base decide to sell it. This will be completely based off of real life (as this is roleplay) so if you're unable to make the payments for the house, then your house will be put up for closure. Now, the real estate agent role will be a donator rank, maybe mvp and mvp+, or it can be a role you must apply on forums.
Overall I fell like this is just a great addition to roleplay for multiple reasons. This will clear lag, stop confusion, add a new realistic role that will be insanely fun to play and play with. I don't see anything negative about my idea as i feel like it should've been added a long time ago.
Thank you very much for reading this and comment below any questions or opinions you may have! Thanks again!

Re: New Role + New Rule

Unread postPosted:March 5th, 2018, 8:56 pm
by Brylyth
I mean.
The issues are:
How do we decide who gets to be real estate agents?
Which agents get to sell which bases?
How will you re-work raiding to accommodate this?
What if no agents are on at the same time that a player is - how do they get a base?
Wouldn't we have fewer bases than we need, as there aren't enough premades for everyone?
Wouldn't this destroy the builder role, and cripple the CEO role? The ranked builder and CEO role are donor perks, and we can't just get rid of them.

Re: New Role + New Rule

Unread postPosted:March 5th, 2018, 9:01 pm
by Brylyth
Sorry, uh.
Corrections: Shouldn't have brought up raiding, that's handled.
Clarifications: When I say how we decide who the agents are, I mean that all the builders, decorators and CEOs in the MVP and MVP+ pool is enough to have more than we can handle at some times, and none at others.
Also, if we add this as part of the donor package officially, we can't remove it ever.

Re: New Role + New Rule

Unread postPosted:March 5th, 2018, 9:16 pm
by Yoseph
I mean.
The issues are:
How do we decide who gets to be real estate agents?
Which agents get to sell which bases?
How will you re-work raiding to accommodate this?
What if no agents are on at the same time that a player is - how do they get a base?
Wouldn't we have fewer bases than we need, as there aren't enough premades for everyone?
Wouldn't this destroy the builder role, and cripple the CEO role? The ranked builder and CEO role are donor perks, and we can't just get rid of them.
You get to be a real estate agent by typing /role realestateagent or applying on forums. Its up to how the people want it/ what works best, but mostly applying on forums.
Each agent can control a certain area. Lets say you control alberton and i get charlottetown.
I mean if there are no agents on, then there are no agents on. Its the same exact thing as saying there is no staff on, or no mechanics, or builders on.
No, there about about 120 prebuilt bases in all of PEI. That can hold up to 120 ACTIVE PLAYERS. They must be active because if they're not then their doors/windows they placed will decay. And there is no way pandahut has 120 active players who play every day. there are probably like 40-50.
No it wouldn't because you can still start a business with ceo, just buy a house from a real estate agent and start a business using the ceo, such as a gun store.

Re: New Role + New Rule

Unread postPosted:March 5th, 2018, 9:31 pm
by Brylyth
120 buildings, yes, but everyone wants one around or in Seattle/Alb.
Also, UNLIKE having no mechanics or builders, not having a real estate agent on means you CANNOT get a base. Period.
If your schedule doesn't line up, you just CAN'T get one at all across multiple days.

On that note, what will builders even do when you can't build your own base?
Considering the sheer count of bases in and near Seattle/Albeton, there are plenty of active players.

What you are proposing necessitates a complete re-work of RP, and requires people who apply on forums to sell you a base... and just hope that the one in control of the town you want a base in is the one online, IF there's one online.

Imagine only having a handful of staff members. That's what'd happen if you have 1 agent for each town.

Re: New Role + New Rule

Unread postPosted:March 5th, 2018, 9:40 pm
by Yoseph
120 buildings, yes, but everyone wants one around or in Seattle/Alb.
Also, UNLIKE having no mechanics or builders, not having a real estate agent on means you CANNOT get a base. Period.
If your schedule doesn't line up, you just CAN'T get one at all across multiple days.

On that note, what will builders even do when you can't build your own base?
Considering the sheer count of bases in and near Seattle/Albeton, there are plenty of active players.

What you are proposing necessitates a complete re-work of RP, and requires people who apply on forums to sell you a base... and just hope that the one in control of the town you want a base in is the one online, IF there's one online.

Imagine only having a handful of staff members. That's what'd happen if you have 1 agent for each town.
I'm not saying there will only be like 5 agents, there could be dozens of agents. I haven't figured everything out which is the reason this is a suggestion. I am looking for players opinions and feedback on what to change/add.

Re: New Role + New Rule

Unread postPosted:March 5th, 2018, 9:48 pm
by Miku
-1 causes too many new problems and restricts player freedom, not worth it.

It wouldn’t really help with lag either, there is would just be a bunch of player owned houses.

There would be drama with the real estate agents and them needing to be on.

Re: New Role + New Rule

Unread postPosted:March 5th, 2018, 9:50 pm
by Aren
-1

Re: New Role + New Rule

Unread postPosted:March 6th, 2018, 12:36 am
by ChevroletSuburban
No, this is a terrible idea.
This would just add another unnecessary step in trying to RP at all with more server enforced rules. There would have to be at least 1 realtor on at all times, otherwise, you couldn't buy a house. It would reduce player freedom by not letting players build their own bases. This would make raids a lot more common, as bases tucked away in the wilderness would not be allowed. It would most likely cause a complete oligarchy of a few realtors who managed to slap a placard on each house, and with hardly any competition, prices would soar, as Alberton is the only place RP really happens. This might even spawn a monopoly, with a single player charging outrageous prices for houses. It might not even reduce lag. It would just consolidate all the bases in a single area, causing even worse problems.
And what about the poor people who already have bases in remote areas, and don't get notified?