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By nir_master
#144805
Something big happened on 3/30/18 2:57 PM PST and that was news that I'll not only saying goodbye to PSD but I would also be losing my family within Pandahut. For many outlaws, this might have come as good news but I'm not here today to talk about how great PSD was at stopping crime or anything of that sort, rather what led to the demise of PSD and shown light on some of the most manipulative players that reside in PH RP at the moment.

The culprits:
Mattcobra: This has player had his ups and downs both as a player and his short-lived moments as staff. But I want to show you that he has hit a new low in my book and maybe some other people's after reading what his motives are. He seemed like any other officer within the PSD and that was proud of their job and hard working and most recently he was awarded commander for his commitment. But there was a darker side to his story and that how he and his accomplices orchestrated the death of PSD. I will go into detail with evidence on why this in the evidence part.

Duke II: This another player who has had his ups and downs and was involved with a lot of controversies but instead all revolved around the elections and if you disagree with me well all I can say have fun living in a world full of lies and illusions. So let me get this straight this player is probably the most manipulative player you will probably see in your stay PH. Don't believe just take a look at his all his campaign material from the past and even the most recent ones which promote him and the video which talks about Cookie's extensive ban history. I will also explain in detail how he is involved in this ordeal but let me ask you this, is Duke II really running in a fictional world to become a Mayor who is there for the people or is he a player with a big ego who treat each the mayor role as some trophy and collects for a hobby? I let you know straight away that I agree with the latter.

The evidence:
To give readers an idea of how long this plan to kill PSD has been going let me show an outline of the timeframe.
1. June 27 Matt confronts me about him and some other unnamed players will be leaving PSD to make the FBI group.
2. July 16 3:09 PM Duke reveals that the transfer of 155,000 credits has been Made to PSD.
3.July 30 2:26 AM - 2:37 AM PST Needless, Mattcobra, and Jack resigns from the PSD.
4. July 30 2:29 AM PST announces that he is taking a break from Captain. (Keep in mind the taking break is the most important part here)
5. July 30 2:27 PM PST Klockmann announces under the decisions of the now Ex- sheriff of PSD Captain Yoseph that PSD will be closed.
6. July 30 3:19 PM PST Duke announces after only 23 minutes of PSD is closed that and that Mayor's office has expected this for many weeks and put into place Matt's FBI group as the new official PD of PEI and awards them with 100k bamboo. (maybe more into the future)
*I want point over the course people were leaving due to other things but not enough to the point where PSD couldn't exist.

For the first event in the time frame, Matt and some others have been trying to get FBI division to the PSD but said but one person stayed persistent, Matt, about the matter. Then during the elections, Matt talked to me about how he was going to form the FBI group with some others which can be seen in the following screenshot.
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The second event in the timeline could easily be found under Mayor Duke's Office found here: https://pandahut.net/forums/viewtopic.p ... 4&start=30

The average person would be like what a good deed this mayor is doing but that's where you are wrong. Though many players often state PSD isn't getting money that they don't need well that's where most of you are wrong and it is really expensive to keep a group like this fully funded. Duke would of knowing the financial crisis that PSD was facing coming into Duke's term especially considering he was in the PSD's discord a month prior to that as vice mayor and had access to our "database" so to say that included our financial transaction such as wages. In order to pay our debts to the officers so speak, we need roughly a 300k to pay for all the missing wages. The 100k that was just given to the PSD may not have helped reach the 300k but 250k is some that could easily have made adjustments with having the sheriffs not get the was wages for weeks which could have been easily managed. Whether this was intentional or not this shows how ignorant Duke is having a whole month prior to elections to know our needs.

The third event shows the now current core members of FBI leave the PSD which really isn't a problem at first but when it is done in a way which is intended to finish of PSD and so that those mentioned people could lead their own group in place of it.

I'm going to address the last 3 events together as it will make sense together.
Klockmann gives an announcement that PSD will be closing down for the time being.
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and I said in timeline shortly after Duke makes a post regarding PSD closing down which is
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The group that Duke had prepared the whole time for a group to take over in an incident like this just happened to be Matt's group the FBI. So Matt left the group along with the others on the basis that PSD was on its death bed which it wasn't really until him and the gang as they were some of the higher rankings with Matt himself being a commander in the PSD. While Matt going on break captain really isn't a bad thing (found here: https://pandahut.net/forums/viewtopic.p ... 76#p144776 ) him playing with those who trusted him is the worst. He went on the break only to come back immediately knowing that PSD shutdown equals him being the leader of his own group.

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This was the state of PSD the moment it was shut down. This doesn't show any signs of a dead or inactive group but rather this shows the Higher ranking people who left and planned this decimated their ability to manage in such short notice of all the people leaving quick succession all because Matt wanted to have something called FBI. ( Duke don't think your innocent from this either I know you played a part in this)

This wasn't in made hopes of getting anyone banned or get them warned cause their actions don't violate any rules from what I have seen.
Also, the staff team who rush to lock this with the explanation that is causing drama to let me ask have you not made the connection that the drama or started people like this. How many Post have you had to lock for drama that involved Duke and there was one just locked July 29th that's yesterday. There is a reason soo many drama cases have Duke involved it's not random there is reason player constantly get in arguments with him have you seen his most recent videos? Have none of realized this guy literally only plays when its election time or when he plans running. I'm most likely gonna get in trouble for making this post but I'm not gonna watch all this bullshit happen in the community lying down.

Important message to those aspiring to become an officer or currently looking to join a PD doesn't join FBI which ironically exist due to corruption. Make your own group or just patrol with friends or become an outlaw since the legitimacy of police of this term and maybe the following term is in serious question.
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By Cookie
#144806
Great post with good arguments but as you said duke will most likely say its drama / harassment and have a mod delete it before anyone sees it
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By Voxil
#144808
Well...I saw it..

And I am fucking ashamed. I'm not saying this is true, because photoshop is a beautiful thing. But..I cared about the P.S.D. The PSD was where I met most of my friends and such. It was a place for me to help P.E.I stay safe and grow. I wanted the citizens to feel safe, and sure I talked about resigning, but I stayed because I felt that it was my duty to help out.

Now, If Matt did do this..I never want to see him again, same goes for Duke.
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By Brylyth
#144812
Okay, so:
Not a final decision, a super or admin can still override me.
This isn't drama. You guys can argue over this, and it's still fine, just don't go personally attacking each other instead, mhkay?

My opinion on this: Your timeline is lacking - Stan announced the closing of the PSD 4 hours and 3 minutes before Klockmann.

A few hours before that, Slayer retired from both the PSD AND their rank as a Captain.

Further, a prominent member has been fighting cancer.

And lastly, sunday of this week Duke put down 300k as funding for the PSD - a pretty hefty goodbye present.

Quite a while ago Quavo just sort of stopped playing, significantly cutting our chances for raids.


I personally feel that the PSD was slowly crashing. Matt didn't sabotage it, he bailed out of a sinking ship, and poached all the members he could before it was too late.
I can personally attest that I wasn't really paying much attention to the PSD part of being in the PSD. Filling out paperwork for every arrest really slowed me down, and I'd often skip it when I was doing one arrest after another.

Honestly I think the multiple weeks thing is a bit of an.. exaggeration. Politicians love to do that :P
Duke probably knew before the general public, but I doubpt they engineered the entire PSD going down.
So many people would have to have known about this beforehand, and keep quiet about it that I'm not really willing to believe it.
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By nir_master
#144816
Okay, so:
Not a final decision, a super or admin can still override me.
This isn't drama. You guys can argue over this, and it's still fine, just don't go personally attacking each other instead, mhkay?

My opinion on this: Your timeline is lacking - Stan announced the closing of the PSD 4 hours and 3 minutes before Klockmann.

A few hours before that, Slayer retired from both the PSD AND their rank as a Captain.

Further, a prominent member has been fighting cancer.

And lastly, sunday of this week Duke put down 300k as funding for the PSD - a pretty hefty goodbye present.

Quite a while ago Quavo just sort of stopped playing, significantly cutting our chances for raids.


I personally feel that the PSD was slowly crashing. Matt didn't sabotage it, he bailed out of a sinking ship, and poached all the members he could before it was too late.
I can personally attest that I wasn't really paying much attention to the PSD part of being in the PSD. Filling out paperwork for every arrest really slowed me down, and I'd often skip it when I was doing one arrest after another.

Honestly I think the multiple weeks thing is a bit of an.. exaggeration. Politicians love to do that :P
Duke probably knew before the general public, but I doubpt they engineered the entire PSD going down.
So many people would have to have known about this beforehand, and keep quiet about it that I'm not really willing to believe it.
I understand the where you are coming from as someone who is from the PSD. But though and some other were inactive there were still other who played enough to keep the PD going before all this happened. As for Jack, I'm not saying he masterminded this but rather he and Needless and Yoshi are the other core members of the FBI so it was done to show that all 3 of them left together while Yoshi left only after PSD closing down even if the initial talks about closing were 4 hours prior still doesn't show how this FBI group was planned weeks ahead with members decided and funding decided. Also to address the fact that it would have been too hard to keep quite seems plausible but at the same time for all of these events to be just mere coincidence is also stretching it.

But I understand where you are coming and as for the reason I'm aggressive on the post was PSD was something more than a faction for me it was like family for me and so was the old TR which he also contributed to its death towards the end of it so it just gets me heated that this could be very well the case.
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By MattCobra
#144817
Ok then....

So, Nir Master, we're good friends but I personally think it's shady to release private DMS. But I digress.

June 27. What a day, a day where I was mad. Want to know why? Simple. PSD didn't ever appreciate any of the hard work and commitment I put into PSD. Whilst other people (excluding names) can walk in and get promoted to the same rank if not a rank higher than me after one quarter of the time I was in PSD. Duke and I did NOT coordinate the shutting down of PSD. I'll put it out there - I loved PSD and I was jumping out of a sinking ship and trying my own thing for once.

Also calling my police department corrupt and trying to publicly shame it? Shame on you. My group didn't want to kill PSD, we loved PSD however we left due to internal affairs and bad leadership on the Sheriff's side.

PSD was dying - face it. I literally complained all the time about PSD to Duke and friends. I had enough one day and decided to leave. PSD boasts it has 30 officers so let me ask - 4 officers leaving. Makes a difference yes, but not so much that it will die. Many people were already retiring from PSD too.

Also, if I was happy in PSD I would've stayed. So would Needless,Jack, Yoshi and Supreme.

I guess our disappointment is likewise.

P.s I didn't orchestrate PSD's closing.. I'm a bit of an idiot :P
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By MattCobra
#144822
Okay, so:
Not a final decision, a super or admin can still override me.
This isn't drama. You guys can argue over this, and it's still fine, just don't go personally attacking each other instead, mhkay?

My opinion on this: Your timeline is lacking - Stan announced the closing of the PSD 4 hours and 3 minutes before Klockmann.

A few hours before that, Slayer retired from both the PSD AND their rank as a Captain.

Further, a prominent member has been fighting cancer.

And lastly, sunday of this week Duke put down 300k as funding for the PSD - a pretty hefty goodbye present.

Quite a while ago Quavo just sort of stopped playing, significantly cutting our chances for raids.


I personally feel that the PSD was slowly crashing. Matt didn't sabotage it, he bailed out of a sinking ship, and poached all the members he could before it was too late.
I can personally attest that I wasn't really paying much attention to the PSD part of being in the PSD. Filling out paperwork for every arrest really slowed me down, and I'd often skip it when I was doing one arrest after another.

Honestly I think the multiple weeks thing is a bit of an.. exaggeration. Politicians love to do that :P
Duke probably knew before the general public, but I doubpt they engineered the entire PSD going down.
So many people would have to have known about this beforehand, and keep quiet about it that I'm not really willing to believe it.
Who is slayer?
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By nir_master
#144823
Ok then....

So, Nir Master, we're good friends but I personally think it's shady to release private DMS. But I digress.

June 27. What a day, a day where I was mad. Want to know why? Simple. PSD didn't ever appreciate any of the hard work and commitment I put into PSD. Whilst other people (excluding names) can walk in and get promoted to the same rank if not a rank higher than me after one quarter of the time I was in PSD. Duke and I did NOT coordinate the shutting down of PSD. I'll put it out there - I loved PSD and I was jumping out of a sinking ship and trying my own thing for once.

Also calling my police department corrupt and trying to publicly shame it? Shame on you. My group didn't want to kill PSD, we loved PSD however we left due to internal affairs and bad leadership on the Sheriff's side.

PSD was dying - face it. I literally complained all the time about PSD to Duke and friends. I had enough one day and decided to leave. PSD boasts it has 30 officers so let me ask - 4 officers leaving. Makes a difference yes, but not so much that it will die. Many people were already retiring from PSD too.

Also, if I was happy in PSD I would've stayed. So would Needless,Jack, Yoshi and Supreme.

I guess our disappointment is likewise.

P.s I didn't orchestrate PSD's closing.. I'm a bit of an idiot :P
I wouldn't really consider you my friend after all this happened and as for shunning me about releasing dm I feel like you should be the last person who should be saying no that's a bad thing to do. And slayer is HookthenCook
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By The Duke II
#144824
This is a complete fabrication from start to finish i only got to know off matts group after he text me.
I will be making a player report about you once i have the time. I never prepared any group and i think you should retract this lie.
You make it seem as if i wanted the psd to die and this is so far from the truth in fact i funded it 150k.
Id love a mod to investigate this so we can see who the real liars are
Last edited by The Duke II on July 31st, 2018, 11:35 am, edited 2 times in total.
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By MattCobra
#144825
Ok then....

So, Nir Master, we're good friends but I personally think it's shady to release private DMS. But I digress.

June 27. What a day, a day where I was mad. Want to know why? Simple. PSD didn't ever appreciate any of the hard work and commitment I put into PSD. Whilst other people (excluding names) can walk in and get promoted to the same rank if not a rank higher than me after one quarter of the time I was in PSD. Duke and I did NOT coordinate the shutting down of PSD. I'll put it out there - I loved PSD and I was jumping out of a sinking ship and trying my own thing for once.

Also calling my police department corrupt and trying to publicly shame it? Shame on you. My group didn't want to kill PSD, we loved PSD however we left due to internal affairs and bad leadership on the Sheriff's side.

PSD was dying - face it. I literally complained all the time about PSD to Duke and friends. I had enough one day and decided to leave. PSD boasts it has 30 officers so let me ask - 4 officers leaving. Makes a difference yes, but not so much that it will die. Many people were already retiring from PSD too.

Also, if I was happy in PSD I would've stayed. So would Needless,Jack, Yoshi and Supreme.

I guess our disappointment is likewise.

P.s I didn't orchestrate PSD's closing.. I'm a bit of an idiot :P
I wouldn't really consider you my friend after all this happened and as for shunning me about releasing dm I feel like you should be the last person who should be saying no that's a bad thing to do. And slayer is HookthenCook
*we were good friends then.

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